Finding Fluidity: Embracing Synergy to Achieve Balance in Meal Planning

Tricia:

Welcome to another episode of Mealtime Magic and Mayhem. Today, I am interviewing Kate Cornelius. She is a mom of 5, a multi business owner living in the hills of East Tennessee. She owns businesses with her husband, and they've dedicated their lives to empowering others to choose healthier alternatives within their lifestyles to embody the life they desire. They operate a retail brick and mortar as well as support coaching and growing Sacred Solidity, which empowers for Soul Led Humans to Catalyze Radical Transformation Without Losing Momentum Using Mindful Accountability and Authentic Expression. And she's really here to talk to us today about you can find a meal plan that fits your schedule and that how eating at home reduces waste and saves money, and how this has really freed up extra time for her and her family. And I can really relate to a lot of that as a mom, not a mom of 5, but a lot of what I wanna talk to you about is really about balance and how you juggle all the things because I think we all struggle with that. And so welcome, Kate Cornelius.

Tricia:

I'm so excited you're here.

Kate:

Thank you. I'm super excited. Yeah. I get that balance question a lot because it seems unreasonable. You're like, look, 5 kids, multiple businesses, 24 hours in a day. Like, how are we really doing all of these things? It's an interesting question. It's an interesting skill set, I think, to be able to build up when you're trying to manage all of these things in life. And Having 5 kids, especially in this economy that we have, in this world that we're living in, like, It's expensive.

Kate:

Kids are expensive. Right? And it doesn't matter whether you have 1 or you have 5 like I do or you're one of the Upper kind of families that has, you know, 6, 7, 10 plus, etcetera. Like, it starts to wear on you over time when you have to constantly create, when you have to constantly bring new things in, and you have to constantly try to manage all of these different personalities Within your household. You know what I mean?

Tricia:

Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. So before we really get started, I wanna ask you, one of my favorite traditions on the podcast is to ask a fun question. I feel like these really help you get to know people on a different level, not to mention sometimes they just result in hilarious conversation. So your question today is, which foodie trend could you never follow?

Kate:

Oh, I couldn't ever follow the foodie trend of trying, like, The gross Skittles. Do you remember that when or not the Skittles, the jelly beans. Do you remember when people used to come out with us? Give her the the soft Flavored jelly. I never got into that. I am not a fan of putting disgusting Flavored food, whether it's candy or any other type of food into my body in any way. I just we can't do that.

Tricia:

We did embrace that for a while, but more because my kids really pushed us to and we had it was like the birdie bot's game, and it had, like, a little spin board, and you would spin, and it would tell you the color of the jelly belly that you were supposed to eat. And you just didn't know if it was gonna be one of the gross ones or not. Like, that was part of the fun, but I'm not gonna lie. Like, it was pretty hilarious to see my son eat the ear wax one.

Kate:

I mean, I'm not gonna lie.

Tricia:

Like, the look I wish I'd captured those moments on video and save them for blackmail.

Kate:

That's funny. I could imagine my kids' faces doing that. I'm also really thankful that we did not have that game, and that was not something

Tricia:

Yeah. I mean, it didn't last long because once I had actually eat them, we were done. So it was a short lived the things you do for your children at least once.

Kate:

Yeah. I think I think that's behind that part. Yeah.

Tricia:

So we've already talked about you wear a lot of hats, which I feel like many women and moms can relate to from owning multiple businesses, and then your the sacred solidity where you support with coaching. How do you maintain and I hate the word balance quite honestly. I think it's bullshit. Like, I don't think balance actually exists. I think everything kind of takes their you lean in one place or the other. Right? And then we've called at balance, which I think is kind of, misleading, but let's call it synergy among all of those Things like, what are a couple of the key things that you've learned that you have to implement along the way even outside of the meal planning realm?

Kate:

I agree with you. I don't think balance is an actual thing. I think all of us as human beings are really just sitting on this spectrum with one goal in mind. I think all of us are sitting here saying, look. I wanna make this life, relationships, Whatever this is for you, I wanna make it go as well as possible, and I wanna do so with the least amount of harm. Right? Period. That's it. I want to be able to do what I wanna do and not feel bad about it pretty much 99% of the time.

Kate:

That's all we're saying. Okay. And I think all of us stand behind that. And then we look at life and we say, okay. Well, we've been given these words like balance, which we equate to equality. Right? Something that is equal on both sides, which we've experienced life is not that way ever. It's not ever in the ones of history ever been a thing. And we all are looking at that, and we're saying, okay.

Kate:

Well, Dang. How am I gonna be able to make that work for me? How am I gonna be able to make this go right for me so that I can have what I want? Can have my cake, and I can eat it too. Right? Mhmm. So you can pretty much up as overall. I am someone who I I love savory meals. I love to have a good home a hearty meal with family around. And If I could do all of that in, like, a 1 pot meal, I a 100% would a 100% of the time. Like, that's the kind of person that I am.

Kate:

And so I look at balance, and I Say, okay. Well, if my goal is to be able to make all of these things go well and to do it with the least amount of harm, right, everyone is satisfied. Everyone pretty much basic needs met. Everyone, full bellies. We're all going to bed, doing a good job today, then I've met the mark on that. And I look at balance more like fluidity, almost, the synergy that you're talking about. And I think once you start to look at it like that, once you start to look at all of your areas of life like that, not just meal planning, not just the way you operate your business, not just your relationships, but all of it. And you look at all of it in the way that it's flowing, it becomes a lot easier to look at your day and be like, cool.

Kate:

How can we make that one work? You know?

Tricia:

Yeah. Yeah. You're right. It it really does, and that is so much of a lot of similarities in that and in my services in terms of it really is about embracing the fluidity and figuring out what works for you and but there is no one size fits all. How can I help you develop those processes to ebb and flow with all the things you have going on in life? I think you put that Absolutely, beautifully.

Kate:

Yeah. And that's really how I stumbled into the way that I handle Meal planning or meal prepping and still being able to make sure that everyone is taken care of. And I'm still like, I have dinner ready 5, 5:30 at the latest every day that I am making dinner, and that's irrespective of anyone else's schedule. Right? That's still making sure that these kids I have four Older kids, and then I have a younger my younger son is 7. So I have basically 6 adults that are in this household. Adult type individuals with their own lives.

Tricia:

Adult leaders, if you will.

Kate:

Right. But little leaders that are just trying to make it, and they're using brainpower. And they're using so much physical energy, and they're trying to make it in life just like all of the rest of us. And When I started off, like, trying to navigate this way of, like, managing a big family while still trying to chase dreams, while still trying to contribute and make sure that, you know, we had enough financially to support everybody. I had a hard time kind of balancing the difference between the time management aspect of how can I get everything handled versus how do I do it in a way where it's good, right, where everyone feels good about it, and I'm still getting done the things that I need to get done? Right? That was a really hard part. People with young kids, it's kind of like toddler phase. Right. Giant demand is kind of like in toddler face.

Kate:

But I found out very, very quickly that the more I was able to prioritize this fluidity, the more I was able to kind of, like, look at schedule and look at preference and look at the way I could start supporting people in my world, The better I became at managing the components of what it took to, like, really navigate balance in my own life, including with meal planning.

Tricia:

You've you know, you had mentioned in our previous conversations that you dislike cooking all the time, right, and or being the only one to really cook. And so for you, it became more of a have to than an enjoy it, not to mention balancing the act of fine meals that everyone will eat. And I know you've mentioned that you and your husband would likely be vegetarians if you didn't have to feed these kids. And so it's really cool that you found what works for you. And you've touched on the art of having a homemade dinner every night of the week, but you only cook 3 times a week. Right? So do. Kind of what's your secret sauce, if you will, for meal planning and, yeah, what's your secret sauce for meal planning?

Kate:

And I'll finish up with

Tricia:

the 2nd part of my question after you

Kate:

Okay. So when I first started out have you ever had the experience where, like, You go to the store and you get one of those jumbo packs of chicken, and you stick it in your freezer, and it's your entire 5 pound block of chicken that you Now I have to defrost, and you're like, okay. Well, we're eating chicken for, like, 4 days. That's where we're at. So I used to be really bad at planning before, like, I actually got myself into a schedule of cooking, and that would happen a lot. Like, we're having chicken for Multiple days. When I was in those moments of creating stuff, I found out that I just put a little forethought into the way that I wanted to approach This particular piece of poultry that we were going to be using, then I could space it out in a way where, One, I made something that everyone enjoyed consistently, like, people really like chicken parm as an example. So we can do Breaded chicken in a particular way, but I can use it in pasta.

Kate:

I can use it in salads. I can use it in this Kind of fashion. And what I started to do was I started to create these blocks of items that I could start using and preparing together, which when I was actually working a 9 to 5, I had to do so that I could get The kids fed before they had to go to bed when they were little. Right? So I was like, okay. I can make that work. I can make this work in a way where I don't have to cook every day because I'm tired of it. Like, that makes me feel like Cinderella. I had a family because I wanna enjoy these people and help raise them into amazing human beings, not to be a slave.

Kate:

So how can I utilize this time the best? And what I ended up doing every time that I would make these Mistakes is really what they were. It's mostly I forgot to take something out of the freezer and, like, actually Separate it into usable quantities. And so because of this mistake, now I have the opportunity to, well, free up a lot of other time that I have. That was a fantastic find. Right? I could have looked at it like a mistake, or I could have said, let's use this to our benefit, which is what I ended up saying. And from that one experience, I was able to take 1 meal and make it into Depending on how much everyone wanted to eat. Three meals? Four meals? Right? Like Yeah. That's insane when you're thinking about a large family and having to cook every day.

Kate:

And the more I did that, the more I was able to find key pieces that my family enjoyed that everyone agreed on. It meant every dietary need that was required. There was not gonna be any complaining, And it meant that they also ate leftovers. Like, how many of you guys in your house throw out so many pieces of Hard earned money. That was the money that I was sleazing away for in a 9 to 5 to come and rush to cook for you guys before you had to be in bed that we were just tossing out.

Tricia:

Well, that food waste just feeds that cycle of failure.

Kate:

Right?

Tricia:

You're like, okay. So I cooked dinner for everybody, but now I still failed I wasted it. Like, we never feel like we get to check the box.

Kate:

Right. Right? So I sat here in this moment, and I said, okay. The very first one that we happened upon, like, chicken and rice is a a pretty standard meal for everybody most of the time. Right? So I ended up with, like, a chicken and rice Kind of dinner. And a lot of people that when my very first jobs was I worked at a Chinese restaurant. I helped those owners go and open a Japanese restaurant, and my kids used to get a lot of this. It was tonkatsu if you go to a Japanese restaurant. Right? They got the rice, and then they got, like, the fried little chicken patty or pork chop or whatever on top the rice.

Kate:

And I realized I could start using that, and then we moved them into chicken Parmesan, like a deconstructed chicken parm Right?

Tricia:

Yeah.

Kate:

And then we moved that into that's how I got my kids eating vegetables like salads. Then we moved it into This is a fried chicken salad. Right? And so now I got 3 meals out of 1 mistake that happened to be in a rushed moment, And my kids ate all of them. And my kids got healthier, and they wanted to eat more vegetables, and they wanted to participate in making these meal plans and this food for, hey. We're gonna be having chicken for a week. Okay. How do we wanna navigate this?

Tricia:

You've hit on something really important there that I think a lot of times in our quest to get it done faster because it feels like a chore, The natural instinct is to keep them out of the kitchen, right, to keep them out of the meal planning because the mindset then can sometimes be like, I've got too many people telling me what they want for dinner, but involving them in the process is a huge game changer for getting them to try all of those new foods. It also takes some of the pressure off of you when they can say, I wanna try chicken this way or I love chicken that way. And Think of it as whoever was listening because you clearly spelled this out. Like, think of it as an opportunity and that you don't have to waste your brain power to come up with it.

Kate:

Right? Like, it started to create this bank of trusted recipes that I knew for a fact I could go to. And not only did it create this bake, but I'm only cooking 3 days a week. Right? So the way that my schedule started to break down, because I know you guys are, like, 3 days a week. There's 7 days, Kate. Like, what are you doing here? Okay. So the way that this actually breaks down is I would cook on Mondays so that I didn't have to cook on Tuesdays because it was a late day, particularly when I was working. Right? So on Mondays, I would cook, say, we had this chicken and rice, then they would use that chicken. Then on Tuesday, all they had to do was make noodles and open a jar of sauce.

Kate:

Whoever was there, whoever was able to do it, noodles in a pan, open some sauce. You guys have chicken par. Like, perfect. That's 2 days. Chicken, I didn't have to cook anything. Then on Wednesday, I would cook something else. So, say, we had skirt steak. Cool.

Kate:

We're gonna have steak tacos, and then we're gonna use that steak, and we're gonna move that on Thursday into whatever that next meal is. Then on Friday, same thing into Saturday. Sunday became a freedom. Cereal for dinner? Absolutely. Absolutely, you guys can. Right? It started to be able to navigate. What if we want pizza 1 night? What if soccer runs over and I have to go stop and get leftovers? Oh, I can just shift that schedule by one day. I'm still only cooking 3 days a week.

Kate:

Everyone else is still satisfied, and all of the needs are being met. And I eliminated so much time, not just in planning, not just in prepping, but I reduced Shopping time? Mhmm. Right? I spent less time at the grocery store shopping because I knew that if my kids were like, okay, mom. I really want chicken parm. Like, that's my favorite. It's on the schedule for this week. This is what it takes. Now we're planning our schedule for the week.

Kate:

Like, Everyone started to get more involved, and I enjoyed being a mom more. I enjoyed like, I love cooking. Don't get me wrong. I love cooking when I want to. Yeah. When it's the boom that I want to cook. Right? And that comes from the burnout. That comes from I'm constantly having to think and plan and Navigate and clean up and

Tricia:

prepare. Decisions.

Kate:

Right? That's the burnout portion. Mhmm. I love cooking, and I love eating, and it's a necessity on top of loving it. Right?

Tricia:

Right.

Kate:

So now I've created a luxury where I can still enjoy it, And I can enjoy it more because there's not constant back and forth between everybody. It's been phenomenal. It's been phenomenal.

Tricia:

You're so speaking my language. You're so speaking my language. I think the other thing that You hit on that I think is important is when we meal plan, we have fend for yourself nights or what we call encore nights. And so I love your theory. We have this chicken. And so let's say life goes crazy, and all of a sudden, you have a call that's going long. Maybe it's not chicken parm night, but they know there's chicken there and all these things that you have around where they have something they can fend for themselves. Now that you've older kids, so they're old enough to heat the chicken up on their own and put it together with something else that also releases the pressure.

Tricia:

And so you can still use this system of yours, this philosophy of yours, and include those spend for yourself nights where it's not that you're just not cooking, but literally everybody else Can figure out what they wanna eat.

Kate:

Well, you know, I was lucky enough to stumble upon it and to start creating this at a point where my kids were young enough to begin to start learning defend for themselves. Right? So now are older. So I have a 21 year old. So 21, 18, 16, 14, and 7. Those are my kids' current ages. And the older 4, Now they can start looking and planning, and they can make me different. Yeah. Right.

Kate:

To do anything at this point. Right? Because They learned those skills as they were going, and they were easy enough recipes. Like, the recipes that we've kept and that we use consistently are, like, some of those Under 10 ingredients, less than 15 minute to make kind of things. Right? And so they learned how to start doing that. And not only are they more proficient, But now they are excited to go and create those to bring them to me to have

Tricia:

Yeah.

Kate:

Which, I mean, I've waited my whole life for this.

Tricia:

They also have the skills to feed themselves when they move out. And as somebody who didn't have that, I can't tell you how amazing that is. Right. I was ill equipped to be released into the wild, and it was a long road for me to get where I am. Like, I grew up an extremely picky eater. I didn't know how to cook. I didn't know what things cost. I didn't know like, Girl, that's a whole another podcast episode.

Tricia:

Anyway and so I think really teaching them those skills, not just teaching, exhibiting, Leading by example and involving them in the process teaches them a whole different level of skills even outside of the cooking skills.

Kate:

Right? Yeah. I always felt ill equipped to be an adult also. Like, I don't know who gave me this card to raise little humans. I don't know who gave me the card to Live in a house by myself. I don't know who told me that this was okay. But a lot of times, I think we get to this place where We needed to know how to prep ourselves for the direction that we're going. And Like, especially when I think about food, because it's such a necessity to our survival, like, quite literally. Mhmm.

Kate:

You guys, like, you have to eat. It's kind of a thing. Right? And think about how many people are like, I zero clue how to cook. My spouse doesn't. Right? Or and, like, I thought about my kids. I have 3 boys. Leave that thought to your head for a minute. I thought for a second.

Kate:

I was like, oh my god. They're gonna die. It's like, they're gonna leave home, and they're gonna instantaneously die because there's no one to cook food for them. And that thought alone, like, I had it was my middle son, my now middle son. He was probably 6, and I was, like, If I died today, everyone's gone. Like, I don't know what they would do. And it turned it around for me to the point where I was like, oh, nope. They gotta learn.

Kate:

Like, they have to learn how to do these Thanks. And I started to listen to all of those adults who were like, nope. I don't know how to do it. I've never someone said they didn't know how to cook rice. I was like, what do you mean you don't know how to cook rice? Like, it it's water. It's, like, water and rice. Like, It's 2 things. What do you mean you don't know how to do it? Like, I was baffled, and I was surprised thought for a second.

Kate:

I was like, man, for all the things that I am ill equipped To handle in life, I'll be able to make food.

Tricia:

I got this one.

Kate:

I got this. This is the one I had. Yeah. They're

Tricia:

So, you know, With everything you've explained, you really do understand that delicate balance of meal planning for a busy family. But given that you cook 3 times like, you know, you cook three Times a week, you've got 5 kids all with varying schedules. You and your husband, I'm sure, have varying schedules with all of your businesses. How How have you managed to create that sense of togetherness and connection during meals despite all of those challenges?

Kate:

We have only a few select rules in our household, especially and they all center around dinner, of course, because it's the one time that most of us are in the house together. So nobody is allowed to bring electronics to the table. If there is food, electronics are not allowed to be involved. Everyone, usually, when they're at dinner, we go around and they share about their day. They share what was good, what was bad, what they could have done better. Anything that is just relevant to them. And oftentimes, they're sharing that even when they're cooking with us. Right? Even when They get in the car after school.

Kate:

They are excited to be a part of an experience where they feel loved and cared for. And then, of course, they're asked to help. They're asked to help with making dinner, cleaning up, coming up with meal plans, participating in being a part of community because at dinner, especially, that's what it is. We're communing. We are connecting. We are being a part of a Community. People who love us and care for us and support us. And whether you call them family or you call them friends or roommates, Doesn't matter as long as we are connecting and making an effort to actually be mindful and present and courteous to those who are around us because we love them and care about them.

Kate:

Yeah.

Tricia:

It's really our one opportunity. Not the only one, but to me, I'm trying to find the right word. I don't know if I'd say easiest, but it is, in my opinion, one of the easiest times of the day to really help your people feel seen, loved, and heard because of things you hit on. You have to eat. We all have to eat to survive. Right? So why not take advantage rather than feeling like we have to rush through it? Find the things that work for you and really take advantage of those moments you have with them to make sure they feel seen, loved, and heard. That's your chance to hear about their day, whether it's helping you prepare dinner or around the table. Right? They already have that.

Tricia:

You've put love into the food. They can taste it. They already feel welcomed and accepted, which makes them more apt to open up about their day because they feel a part of something. Yeah. So teenagers

Kate:

And Sunday. You get them

Tricia:

to open up about their day because so often, they love those one word answers. And I know the things that we've tried over the years, but what has worked for you and your family to get past that. Like, it was fine. Nothing.

Kate:

I don't push those conversations. I think we all get to a place. Even as an adult, I'm someone who's like, you know what? Today, I'm gonna shut down and I'm gonna hermit, and I don't wanna speak to somebody. I tried to give my kids a lot of Open space, I guess, is a good word for it, to be able to process and to come to terms with the level of involvement that they want have when participating. And, you know, as parents or individuals or just human beings in general, I don't think we have the luxury to stand in and say, you know what? Like, you guys have to perform every 2nd of every day. I don't think we get the luxury to tell people That they have to participate in the ways that we want them to. Now I, of course, always initiate. I always ask.

Kate:

I always leave the door open. And There are a lot of times where I'm at kind of, like, with the proverbial slamming of the door. Right? I'm gonna keep my headphones in or I'm going to And remember, no electronics are allowed at the table. Right? They think that if the phone's not there, but a headphone is in, that they've skirted an issue. Right. Let me know. As teenagers, I think all of us buck the system. They try to skirt by.

Kate:

One thing I do notice is that even on those days where They wanna shut the door in my face, and they wanna walk off. They still actively sit and listen to everybody else. They'll still actively participate with maybe the 1 sibling they're in good graces, but for that day, while they roll their eyes at everybody else, They are still, in fact, participating, and they are still, in fact, I guess, kind of overcoming the isolation that comes with not having community. Mhmm. And it just happens to be on their own terms, and then they always come back down. Usually, when they wanna come and get a snack, and they try to have conversation care about. So it's just leaving the door open for me. I think allowing that space kind of in the same way that you would allow for, I don't know.

Kate:

Different seasonings and different meals to kind of elevate the taste. It gives a little bit more spice. And it keeps it interesting to know that as a parent, I don't get it right as often as I think I probably should Or as often as other people think that I probably should, but I believe I'm doing pretty well in letting these people be who they need to be while what I need to as a parent to keep them safe and healthy and functioning in this world that they are about to be a part of.

Tricia:

Well, it sounds to me like you're raising wonderful human beings and contributing members of society, and so kudos to you.

Kate:

Thanks.

Tricia:

It's not an easy road. Right? Minor, 19 and 24. So for some of us, like, I I gave up a long time ago on the how was your day question and, you know, like, the question I asked you earlier. I keep tons of those questions around, and I start asking stupid things like, if you could be on a talk show, what would it be and why? Because Quite often, those questions will bring out something about their day or how they see the world that they're not willing to communicate in other way because they don't feel comfortable. And so for anybody listening, those kinds of questions, if you're getting the doors the proverbial or even virtual door slammed in your face. There are other ways to get them to open up by engaging with somebody else at the table with those interesting or open ended questions. You can buy table topics on Amazon. They got a gazillion different themes, but they're super fun.

Tricia:

And we've gotten to the point now where my kids are like, what's the next question? They're 19 and 24, and they still wanna know what the next question is. Right?

Kate:

To know that you're so loved and someone is curious about a thought that you have No matter how silly it is,

Tricia:

where do you wanna go? If you could go back in history and talk to anyone, who would it be? Right? Like, it gives you such perspective on how they see the world.

Kate:

That reminds me of the meme where they're like, no one asked me what my favorite I don't know. Yes. Exactly. I will. That's awesome.

Tricia:

So for anybody who's listening, if If you have questions about how to create the system of your own, that's where I come in. But, Kate, before we sign off, I wanna talk to you about your business. I want you to tell us a little bit about Sacred Solidity and the transformations that you work on. Can you share an example, obviously, without giving away anything confidential of kind the kinds of transformations that you see with your clients through your guidance and how this kinda enriched your own journey as well.

Kate:

Yeah. So sacred salinity is a conscious business model. I use a lot of healing modalities like law of attraction. I utilize astrology, human design. These different, I guess, for lack of a better word, spiritual modalities that allow me to help individuals Not only recognize, but better utilize and implement the energy that they personally have so that they're able to kind of find that Balance for themselves in their own life. So some of the transformations that I have helped people with, I have a lot of spiritual entrepreneurs who come to me, who are trying to figure out initially how to utilize the modalities that I use So they can get better, quicker, faster success in their businesses. A lot of the transformations that they have come on the personal side. I had a client recently who picked up the hobby of stained glass because it connected him back with the idea of his mother.

Kate:

People have Had children. They have sold their houses. They have moved internationally to go find greater joy in different countries. I work with so many incredible human beings, and the only goal that I have overall is to help people literally love The life that they are creating and to prosper in it based on the energy that they have to give to it. And I think The more that we lean into that joy and that grace and the exuberance of just being able to live. Like, what a gift it is to be able to live and to Create something where it is a 100% yours, and you still thrive within this creative structure that is also around you. I just think that's one of the coolest things.

Tricia:

Oh, I agree. I agree. So do you have a particular client that you work with? Clearly, it's not just women because you mentioned that you have male clients. Is it all entrepreneurial? Is there a certain a certain person that you gravitate toward or that you want to call into your world?

Kate:

I do work a lot with entrepreneurs, but I am really fascinated by and motivated by the individual who is curious about personal development. I really love working with men. I love working with women as well. So I kinda leave the door open to whoever is called to being in my space as long as you are curious about growth And you are curious about utilizing your own energy in an authentic way so that you can really tackle these big vision goals that you have, and we get to do that in a way that's quicker than doing it on your own.

Tricia:

Well, tell everybody where they can get in touch with you, where they find you where you hang out on social media. You know, all of those things where if they feel called to be in your space, where they can find you.

Kate:

Yeah. Absolutely. So I hang out mostly on Facebook. You guys can find my personal page at Kate Sacred Solidity on Facebook, and then you guys can also check me out, connect with me, and see some of the offers, products, and services that I have on sacred solidity.com. That is my website, and I am fully active on both since both have community aspect.

Tricia:

Great. We will make sure all those links are in the show notes, and it's been so fun to talk to you and hear how you've discovered your own secret sauce and cracked your own code, if you will, for creating a meal planning system, and it's really more than a meal planning system. It's, again, figuring out that synergy that works for you and your family so that you all feel seen, loved, and heard, including you, which I think is one of the things that we quite often miss. We make sure everybody else does, and we forget about us. I really just love what you've shared with us today and Really hope that it helps somebody who's listening. So thank you so much for being here.

Kate:

I appreciate you.

Tricia:

I will talk to all you guys in the next episode. Thanks for listening to another episode of