The Energy Experiment: How to Uncover the Perfect Foods for Your Unique Body's Needs

Tricia:

Hello, and welcome back to another episode of the Mealtime Magic and Mayhem podcast. Today, I have Cornelia Kwan. She's an executive in the Swiss electricity regulator and the founder of Energy On. She is a personal energy strategist under the brand Energy On, and she empowers busy female execpreneurs to use their full energy and thrive in their career and business. I am just absolutely fascinated with the work that you do. And as you were explaining, that you really work with energy and frequencies in all its forms, and explain to your clients the world of quantum physics and really show them how to understand, measure, and increase, and shift their energy in order to reach their goals, and I am absolutely fascinated. I can't wait to have this conversation with you. But, Cornelia, welcome to the podcast.

Tricia:

I'm so glad you're here.

Diane:

Wow. Thank you so much for this really kind introduction, Tricia. And I'm so excited being here and also talk to your Wonderful audience.

Tricia:

So I think we can talk for days about energy just based on the conversation we've had so far. But before we get started with the interview, I'm gonna ask you these are one of my fun table topics questions. And your question today is, what are the foods that you remember from childhood?

Diane:

As I already told you, I'm, you know, half Austrian. So I come from like the Mecca of Sweets. So of course, it was something, there were the 3 main dishes I really loved. The one is apricot dumplings, they're sweet, And then there is Seitzbogen Nockel which is kind of really so much sugar in it and you get a sugar shock. And then Kaiserschmarr. These are the real famous desserts in Austria, and I'm very fond of them.

Tricia:

Do you ever make them yourself? Do you cook much?

Diane:

Yes. I always try to cook, and I think since I'm 18, I'm vegetarian. And for the last 5, No. Not twice. Let's say 3 years I'm, living vegan. So I really yeah. Because our body is so Important. You know, it's our best friend for our whole life.

Diane:

We really need to put as much really good fuel into it So it can operate on its best.

Tricia:

I I love that. So, well, that brings me to a whole another question before we get into the into all the good stuff, but those are your 3 favorite recipes. Do you have vegan recipes for those that you make yourself now? Because when I think of Baking and vegan can be a little bit challenging. Right?

Diane:

Yes. But it's possible. And also try to avoid sugar. But you know what? What I really love My kids are, they're teenies now, but my kids, they love it. These are these apricot dumplings. But it in a way, it's potato dough. Oh, okay. It's made of potatoes, and then you just, you know, put the fresh apricots in it, and then you make, like, the dough around it, and then you cook it.

Diane:

So and then you can eat it with cinnamon, then you have lots of some bread crumbs around it, but, I skipped that. So,

Tricia:

Would you be willing to share those recipes with us? I'm fascinated. Now I want to try, I want to try to make the apricot dumplings.

Diane:

Okay. Yeah. That's gonna be the report.

Tricia:

Alright. So in my work as a mealtime and relationship mentor, I talk a lot about the energy of food and the energy that we bring to food. And so I know the concept of energy sounds unconventional for some. And so can you explain how you blend that science of energy and what some might perceive as the woo and really why that's essential for your personal well-being.

Diane:

Yeah. The thing is when I started working with, you know, I've been working for Studied it. I'm an electric engineer with frequencies and energies for a really long time. So this was my world. But then I discovered quantum science And you know, not everybody is saying, oh, wow. Science is so far away. No. It's not.

Diane:

It's in our daily life. It's in our daily business because everything is energy. And then what puzzled me when I started working with my personal energy is that you can measure electric Energy. And so, I was looking for why is there no unit for personal energy, for life energy. Right? And so I was really starting doing research and searching for it and I found it. You know, finally I discovered it. There is actually a unit For life energy, it's Bovis. And it was discovered or developed by Andre Bovis, who was a French, radiologist.

Diane:

And it was in: 1900

Tricia:

That I keep using the word fascinating, but that's exactly Like, my mind is blown right now because I had no idea that there was a unit for that, but also that this isn't a new concept.

Diane:

No. It's not. It's old. And the thing is, you know, like he said, the neutral line he figured out A normal person, you know, if you measure the energy of a normal person, you're supposed to be minimum like 7,500 boys, right? And then, would he, and I think it's so logic, he defined it, you know, whenever you're eating food It is below your own obvious value. It takes energy from your body. Whereas, when you're eating food that is with a higher bonus value, you know, it gives your body energy. It's still completely simple.

Tricia:

've got my mind racing with a: 100000

Diane:

Yeah. Definitely. I love that you're so so interested. And the thing is that, you know, he also said, like, come just coming back to the Okay. He also, said like below the 7,500, you know, if it's only 3,000 phobis, then it's kind of really Toxic to your body. Right? Whereas, like, if you really have something that is healing your body, then, his scale ended at 10,000, but now it's kind of unlimited. And then you definitely need to have, like, 15,000 to 20,000 if you add something Or eat something like this, then it's really kind of very positive for your body. But in order to do the whole thing, First of all, you need to have your own bogeys value.

Diane:

So then you can kind of test, yeah, does this food have more or not? Yeah. And then You can even go deeper than you really kind of, test if it's good for you or not. Because here I would like to share a story, a personal story. You definitely know Anthony Williams. Right? Yes. And he yeah. And he you know, his famous words, but he said they're 2 The most healthiest things in the world today, wild blueberries and fresh celery juice. So, of course, I wanted to do something good for my body.

Diane:

Right? So I bought a really fancy juicer and then I, Every morning I pressed the fresh, celery juice, I drank it. And then after a while I noticed I got a stomachache after I drank the celery juice. And, you know, just then I tested and I figured out, No. Celery juice is just not good for my body. Would I have just done it before I bought the juicer. Right? But you see, even, you know, it's just human that if somebody's so, you know, famous and connected to saying, this is so healthy for everybody, And then I just did it. I didn't even think about it, that it wouldn't work for or wouldn't be good for me. And this is exactly my message.

Diane:

We are all unique. We all have a really special unique body. And what is good for your friend or your spouse or your kids doesn't necessarily mean it's good for you. And I think this is this is really the key message. Yeah. So it's always good to figure out what's good for your body because it's special Yeah. I think it's, special foods.

Tricia:

You bring up something really interesting because so much in what I teach when I'm working with women about how They cook and what they're eating is it really is there is no one size fits all. Right? We all relate to different Styles of cooking, we all relate to different foods. Our bodies process foods very differently. And so the idea that we can say or that anybody can say, These are the foods that you need to eat. It just doesn't we're it's again, we're putting ourselves in a box to say we have to conform to fit this when If we listen hard enough, our bodies are gonna tell us no. Like, that's you know, salads might be great for Tammy over here, but they don't do so well for Trish. Right? So I love that you've brought this aspect into it because it really is there is no one size fits all. Every single Body is very different in how it processes and what I feel like is good and isn't good for it.

Tricia:

I really don't like the words good or bad. So How do you identify your own, your own level to, to know and then measure if foods are good or bad for you?

Diane:

Yep. Yeah. Coming to the exercise. And I would just, you know, hang on to what the other said before, and this is Really, if you wanna be like devil's advocate, it's not actually, it's not important what you're eating. The only thing that is important, You know, what your body makes out of it. And everybody takes something, differently out of it. Yeah. So I, I, I see exactly what you said.

Diane:

Yeah. Okay. So to the exercise. And the exercise, it's actually another very powerful tool. I use it like All the day, probably every minute for so many things, but it's a kinaseologic muscle test you can do by yourself. Right. And this, for at the beginning, it's kind of a little bit, you know, people are too much in their brain and they don't trust their body. So So it's more connecting with your body and use your body as kind of a pendulum.

Diane:

And the good thing about this, if you get out, you know, if you ask your mind to step aside and you just connect with your body, your body doesn't lie. It can't. It will always tell you the truth if you like it or not. Right? And sometimes it's gonna also be Not so nice what your body is telling you. Right? And sometimes we don't even wanna ask, yeah, because we don't don't care. But in general, your body is, you know, Your best friend giving you all the answers you wanna have and then you need to do something out of it. So how do you do it? In a way, I will show the exercise here. So in a way, it's called the standing method.

Diane:

You know, there are different ways, but I think if you really start off, It's best you do standing because then you'll probably feel more the movement of the body and you understand better the answers of your body. So what I'm saying right now, so in a way you're using your body as a pendulum and in order to communicate with your body, you need to calibrate it before. Meaning, You need to know what's yes and what's no of your body. Otherwise, you can't communicate. And I I call this the calibration. Okay. So the best thing is you just stand up, so your feet width apart And then you just close your eyes, then you can put your hands on your belly. If you feel a little bit nervous, then you can like take a deep breath In and out.

Diane:

And then you just say, give me a yes. Give me a clear yes. Give me a yes. Oh, and what happens with me, my body tilts forward. But, you know, this is my yes. I don't know what what happens with you. Oh, it

Tricia:

was a very it was a very dramatic tilt forward.

Diane:

Okay. See, this is your yes. So keep your eyes closed, then give me a no.

Tricia:

Give me a

Diane:

no. Give me a clear no, you can say.

Tricia:

Give me a clear no. Oh, yeah. Nope. That's alright.

Diane:

Now you got you went backwards. That's the same with me. It's not with everybody. That's why it's good to check it out first. Right? So in a way now then you could experiment a little bit and can say, is it day? I get a no because over here, it's already Yeah. And then you can experiment a little bit. You can ask that.

Tricia:

Is it today? Yeah. Oh, yep. Interesting. Steels like magic.

Diane:

Hi. Then you can ask, I live in Europe. I'm in Europe right now.

Tricia:

Am I I'm in Europe right now. Is that right? No. That's fun. Oh my gosh. You can do this with all the things.

Diane:

Yeah. You can use it everywhere. It's kind of changes your life if you really use it. You can make all decisions. You know, Whatever you're thinking of, you can ask your body for for its opinion. Very powerful. And of course, with this tool, you can also test your hobbies value. So, anyway, you can close your eyes and then you can ask yourself, Do I have more than 1,000? Right? I get a yes.

Diane:

Do I have more than 2,000? I get a yes. You have more than 3,000, more than 4,000, More than 5,000. K. There's always a yes. More than 6,000. Do I have more than 7,000 movies, more than 8,000 movies, more than 9,000, More than 10,000? No. More than 11,000? 12,000? Do I have more than 15,000? No. So I'm below

Tricia:

15,000. Interesting.

Diane:

And then you have your previous value. Okay.

Tricia:

So then when you're eating, let's say you're sitting down to eat, do you need to because typically, if I'm listening to my body when I get ready to eat, It's either the smell of something I'm eating or it's the first taste of something I'm eating, and so I'm already interacting with the food to determine whether my body wants it or not.

Diane:

Mhmm.

Tricia:

Do you need to be interacting with the food to know if it's going to be Positive for your body?

Diane:

Yes. You you can, you know, either hold your plate in the in the hand. So maybe before you sit down, You can ask, does this food you can either ask, does it give me energy? Does it general? Or and or if you really wanna have it in detail, You can ask, does it have more boobies than I have?

Tricia:

Mhmm. Okay.

Diane:

And even if you get the no, Like, does this food give me, energy? Then you can, like, adapt it. You can ask, can I add something To increase its energy? But for example, if you're drinking like coffee, because it was with one of my clients, She loves coffee. And we figured out coffee definitely is taking energy from her. So she was really Kind of devastated, and then so you can imagine, you know, you pulled the lifeline. And then I thought about it and then I got the idea let's experiment with it. Right? We tested a couple of things and then what was really good for her body was Almond milk. So we figured out what happens if you put the almond milk into the coffee. And guess what? It was was much better for her For her body to digest coffee with almond milk.

Diane:

And so we kind of saved her life. Right?

Tricia:

Yeah. I think dairy and I my body and I are gonna have to have a real conversation Derry. Yeah. It's been yeah. It's definitely been talking to me lately, not even knowing all of this. Definitely getting the nudges. This has been really, really interesting. So when you think about how many people struggle with making healthy food choices, especially when they're bombarded with so many conflicting diets so much conflicting dietary advice, and there's just so much diet culture and noise, particularly here in the States.

Tricia:

I know. I'm not sure about Switzerland, but I know, You know, there's so much advice out there about, kinda like the blueberries and the celery juice, about what's healthy and what's not. And I was gonna ask you how understanding the energy of Food can simplify this decision making process, but I think you really just created an example of that for everybody who's listening, and I hope Those who see it on YouTube, like, really, really interesting. I've really been learning how to listen to my body for probably the last 2 years, and this just feels like it takes it to, like, a whole another level.

Diane:

Oh, I'm so grateful I could be part of this journey.

Tricia:

So interesting. And it just you know, not just even for food, but just the power you can feel when you can really just Take a deep breath, be present, that kind of meditative, right, and and listen to what it wants to tell you. I think that's a lot of the hard of shutting out the noise to really be able to listen.

Diane:

And you showed. It's no it's there is no woo woo or magic or whatever. It's just natural, right, because we are all energy beings. We all have this energy and, it just, you know, if you just Experiment and trust your body. It just communicates. And, you know, the thing is your body will be completely excited. Wow. Finally.

Diane:

After so many years, She starts talking

Tricia:

to me. Right? We all want to be seen and heard. Right? That's, really cool to think about kind of also, you know, if you want to bring the woo into it, your higher self talking to you and letting you know what you need and really connecting with that. And so for anybody who's listening, like, think about how this relates to the energy that you put into your meal planning and your cooking, The energy that you're putting into what you're serving your family and the energy that you're bringing to the table, I think this just shows that energy. Again, we're all energy, and energy lives in everything. I mean, everything is energy. And so this is, I just love how this kind of comes back around to all of that in a very scientific way. So your background in electrical engineering and your work as a personal energy strategist might seem like an unconventional pairing.

Tricia:

Share a specific example of how your engineering expertise kind of complements your approach to holistic well-being.

Diane:

That's a very good question. In a way, what I just did here, I break it down how You can use this quantum science stuff in your own life, right, because it's already Part of our life. Yeah? So we just need to know how to use it and to work with it. And once we start, we learn how to manage Our own energy. There's so many different things possible all of the sudden because it's so much easier If I don't know. Send energy from here to you instead of a letter. Right? You will get it much, much faster, and you will feel a difference. Yep.

Tricia:

Yes, so true. So for someone who's entirely new to the concept of energy in food or even the energy that we've talked about, it's about food or asking your body about something else, are there is there 1 or 2 practical tips you could give them to really start exploring and understanding this aspect, of their nutrition and overall energy. And I know you talked about, like, find that pendulum point and then ask your body those clear questions. But is there anything else? Let's say somebody realizes their level is low, and what are a couple of tips you could give them to increase that even whether it's nutrition related or overall energy related.

Diane:

Mhmm. Sure. You know, just Coming back to the scientific background and I think it's so difficult for people to grasp The concept of energy because we are brought up in the world of Newton. Like, if you go back to physics classes, We you know, Newton said, you know, if you can't see it, if you can't touch it, and if you can't measure it, It just doesn't exist. And that's why why we we all think it's kind of woo woo. Right? But, You know, now we kind of broke up a little bit this concept because now we are using WiFi. Have you ever seen Wi Fi? I haven't, right? And I haven't I know I felt electric but I've never seen it. I've heard it a couple of times.

Diane:

But these things all, you know, are kind of okay because you can measure them. But just with personal energy or life energy was always said no, woo woo because you, you know, can't feel it, can't see it, and can't measure it. And now, You know, I broke that down because now we can measure it. And that's exactly the thing is, you know, just think Don't even think out of the box. Just accept that there is no box at all. Right? Because it's just the normal life. You know, we just can't say, Okay. We accept WiFi because somebody is telling us and personal energy we just don't accept.

Diane:

But it's the same in a way because we all See the result, you know, if you have a lots of energy or talk to a person who is full of energy, you feel it. You see it. Right? Yeah. And if if somebody is sad or angry, we feel that energy as well. Mhmm. And sometimes we even feel the energy if we go Before we enter a room, we already feel that there is tension behind the door. Right? Because our energy is already in that room. It's around us.

Diane:

Sandhya, if you're standing in front in the at the door, you you already can feel it. So, hey, experiment with it and try it out and have with it. It's something you really can enjoy. Yep.

Tricia:

Yeah. It's kind of amazing how we know scientifically that everything is energy, and you can't destroy it. Right? You can't create it or destroy it. It just sort of moves around and, I don't know, reallocates or changes the vibration. Right? And we know this to be true about, like, tangible products. I don't know why it's so hard for us to stretch our thought processes to think about it when I mean, I can feel a different Energy in this exchange of energy with you in this conversation versus the energy of someone else. Right? Like or you walk into the room like you said, you're like, oh, this doesn't Feel right. Right? Yeah.

Tricia:

You are picking up on energy, and it's so interesting to me that we can walk in and recognize that, but not really recognize it as the science that it is. I guess we get so locked into, you know and and we can feel that. Maybe we feel like we can't measure it and that's what makes it not real. I don't know. That that part baffles me, The whole study of, you know, how we get to define what is and isn't just based on our own on how we feel. Doesn't make sense.

Diane:

Yeah. That's what I think. And, so For me, it was okay to define it exists. And, and I see so many parallels between Electric energy and also our life energy because, what we just experienced, over here in Europe last year with, like, this shortage on on Electric energy. You know, it was the 1st time that people were aware of the scarcity. Yeah. We have to think about it. We have to deal about it And deal with it, and we have to find a solution to have more electric energy.

Diane:

Right? And on the other side, it's the same. You know, everybody is talking with about burnout, but in a way, it's completely the same. It's just scarcity of personal energy. You just Yeah. You know, run out of battery. And it's that simple as it is. And I think the better you are, the earlier you accept, There is just no life without energy. In our social life, you know, if there is no Electricity anymore, you know, nothing works.

Diane:

We couldn't even talk. Right? Right. We couldn't buy anything. We couldn't even go into a shop or whatever. It's you Can't even pump your car. It's dead. You can't even use your toilet. And, you know, and with your own energy, it's the same, you know.

Diane:

And So it's so important to understand that it's kind of the most valuable currency you're having and whatever you're doing Every second, you're trading your personal energy against something. And either you get more energy back or you're giving more away. And I think your energy is in a way like a bank account. Right? It is. Absolutely. Debt and then you need to Kind of fill it up again. So there is so many say similarities to our things we do in our daily life. Yeah.

Tricia:

Well, this has just been absolutely fabulous, but I wanna leave the last couple of minutes for you to tell everybody how they can get in touch with you, follow you, anything exciting that you have coming up. I believe there's a book in the works, which by the time this airs, will probably actually be published. So tell us all the things about what you have going on and where anybody who's listening can get in touch with you.

Diane:

Yes. You know, I would love to get, some questions from your audience and, Yeah. Give us a feedback, how they think about it if they tried the exercise and, yeah, if they were testing their food and they're also there, You know, if they felt the difference, if it was easier for their body. So really please get in touch. I really would love to hear from you. You can of course find me on on Instagram. It's kernelia_energy_on. And it's the same thing on LinkedIn, Facebook, TikTok, so wherever.

Diane:

And my homepage is corneliakowan.com. So, I I think I sent you the links. And, yes, there is actually really something exciting coming up. I'm really excited. And this is, yeah, I wrote a book because, you know, for me, it's important. What I also do here is I know a lot about, personal energy management. I know how you can increase your energy, recharge your energy, protect your energy. And I'm working with lot of my clients, but what I've learned is we are all energy beings.

Diane:

You know, we are kind of 100% energy. So it's completely natural to us to work with energy. And but most people just forgot about it. And I see my Mission and vision to empower people to remember how to do it. And because everybody can can do it. And that's All the book is about. I'm sharing all my really powerful energy exercises, energy hacks. There are 40 in the book, and that people can do it on their own because I think It's all about empowerment and to do it yourself and that you're not depending on anybody else.

Diane:

You can do it yourself. And the book will be published on the 31st October, and there will be a huge launch party, too late on the 1st November. It's an online lounge party, and, yeah, it would be cool if your audience is, part of it. But maybe later on, then they can check out the book.

Tricia:

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, Oh, I wanna be part of that.

Diane:

Yeah. Thank you.

Tricia:

I you know, I think that's really I'm really excited to check out the book when it comes out, and I think what a fabulous like, if you have a close group of girlfriends, a book club, how fun would it be to go through that book together, and then do those exercises whether it's together or on your own, and then talk about what you've learned. And, really, When you think about, again, the connection that comes from that energy and doing that together, and then Just how much closer your tribe becomes as a result of it, like, I I think I'm gonna have to talk to my girlfriends, and we're gonna have to do together. I think that would be an amazing book club project.

Diane:

Wow. That's a powerful thought. I never thought about it, but, it's so true. You will because Then you will create together even more energy. Yes. And this is also powerful. Yeah.

Tricia:

Yeah. Oh, I have so many ideas on how I'm gonna use all of this now.

Diane:

And, you know, you can always invite me as a special guest, to your book club Yeah.

Tricia:

I definitely would. I definitely will. Cornelia, thank you so much. We will definitely stay in touch. Thank you for joining us and sharing your heart, your energy, and your wisdom. It's been such a pleasure. And for everyone listening, thank you again for being here for another episode of Mealtime Magic Cohen Mayhem, and I'll talk to you in the next episode.